I guess another 5 years to wait for a legit open one, but hej, I'm waiting since a1200e.
1. [https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_stylus_(2026)-14581...]
My partner got the Moto G Stylus 2025 after we swore off Samsung last year. I've been very impressed. Other then the camera software, it's a very capable phone, and the headphone port and SD card slot are great. There's 90 gigabytes of lossless music on an SD card now. The camera software sucks, but thanks to a tip I think I heard here on HN, I installed a gcam (Google pixel camera) port and that's great.
I've been wanting to get away from Samsung for years, but keep coming back because of the s-pen. I've yet to find another manufacturer that makes a decent phone with a proper stylus. As in, a stylus which the device recognises as being something different to your finger. Most styluses use the same technology as the cheap ones you can buy on Amazon and use on any phone: all they do is imitate the finger. As far as I know, the Moto stylus phones are like that, right? That makes them very awkward to use for many things e.g.:
S-pen -> scroll down a PDF with my finger -> highlight with the pen
Regular stylus -> scroll down a PDF with my finger -> select highlight option in app -> highlight with stylus, being very careful not to touch the screen anywhere with my finger -> select browse option in app
With the latter, you have to specifically tell the app every time you are switching to/from finger and stylus. With the former, the app knows the difference.
If you give me a high end phone with a proper stylus and GrapheneOS, I'd probably never look back.
It was a shame, as the rest of the phone hardware was very good for the price - after installing gcam on it as you did.
I engaged Motorola on this, spoke with the engineering team. We even did a few calls, me with a Nokia and then a Motorola so they could see the difference. You could sense the shoulder shrugs at their end.
To discover they still have the same limitations is beyond amusing, and I wonder of the same engineering team still exists in part, decades later, refusing to care.
Maybe this isn't any of my businesses, but couldn't you just talk less loudly, if this is such a issue? Most microphones are good enough, and were in the 90s too, to pick up normal conversational volume :)
Also this is great unless Motorola is comprimised.
Motorola is doing a large portion of the work of porting GrapheneOS to their devices. They'll provide us with what we need for firmware/drivers in the form we need it and it will be far easier than Pixels. We'll be able to get issues in the firmware and drivers fixed through Motorola and Qualcomm.https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Signature-Dual-SIM-Unlocked-...
https://www.motorola.com/gb/en/p/phones/motorola-signature/s...
$1900 Fold
https://www.motorola.com/us/en/p/phones/razr/motorola-razr-f...
$1500 Ultra
https://www.motorola.com/us/en/p/phones/razr/razr-ultra-2026...
The company working with GrapheneOS appears to be Motorola Mobility, owned by Lenovo (China).
Praise be the lord for Chinese Motorola Mobility if so, because they were the ones who launched and shipped the Motorola Moto G phone which was probably the best cheap Android phone available that could fit into my hand properly, until the 5th/6th generation, when I had to move away from them as they too became too large.
Hope they go back to their (Chinese) roots shortly and launch more "normal sized" phones again, if they'll be able to run GrapheneOS as well that'd be a huge plus obviously :)
That "growing too large to be useful" was exactly when they were sold to Lenovo.
- SD card slot
- audio jack
- cheap
- no shitty custom UI filled with ads and slowness
Would obviously want it to also backup/restore esim's...
So, I've been using flip phones now exclusively since the Samsung Z-Flip3 (and will never go back to slab phones unless the flip segment disappears), but I almost never use the outer screen. Maybe that is just me, but I have a feeling it's pretty common.
Does anybody have any inside baseball to share in terms of whether we can trust this arrangement to last longer than, say, a year?
I do know Motorola seems to not care much about software - they were still shipping 32 bit until embarrassingly recently, and are known for rarely updating their devices. From that lens, this could be a rather symbiotic relationship if it proves it can sell.