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Netherlands lists Israel as a threat to its national security for the first time (2025)

(trtworld.com)
83 points by robtherobber 3 days ago|11 comments
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DavideNL 2 days ago
Related article in Dutch newspaper NRC, also July 2025 (gift link):

https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2025/07/04/de-zichtbare-en-onzicht...

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r721 2 days ago
(2025)
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MengerSponge 3 days ago
Interesting that it's the influence/disinformation that caused this, not the open secret that they're a rogue nuclear armed state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

"Most European capitals are targets for our air force... We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."

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karmakurtisaani 2 days ago
To be fair, any country with nukes has this option. They're just not so obnoxious about it.
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isthisso 2 days ago
No, only countries which can actually deliver the bombs to the targets.

Why do you think you can permit yourself to conduct a (proxy) war against Russia?

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karmakurtisaani 2 days ago
Yeah, think about it mate. You'll get there.
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close04 2 days ago
> Israel must be like a mad dog

> We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force.

> We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.

> possibly causing irreparable damage to the entire world

These people definitely don't speak for all Israelis but they certainly do a disservice to all of them. They feed exactly the kind of negative sentiment that more and more people have, with written proof.

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dlubarov 2 days ago
You're quoting a civilian who has no role in the government, let alone its military command.
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close04 24 hours ago
This is why I talked about their speech doing a disservice to all Israelis, not their ability to act with authority. If you need an LLM to interpret 2 short sentences, here is what it thinks:

> No. That sentence does not suggest the people are in the government or military.

> It reads like you mean a group of civilians or public voices whose statements harm perceptions of Israelis generally. “Speak for all Israelis” implies they’re not representatives, not officials.

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DemocracyFTW2 7 hours ago
> If you need an LLM to interpret 2 short sentences, here is what it thinks

sick burn

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cpill 2 days ago
I really don't know what Israel's long term goal here is? Fighting a war with a group of people who vastly outnumbered you and who are known if never giving up or forgetting means it will never end. it's been going on since 1948. you'd figure they'd realise this approach isn't working by now? I guess this is perfect for right wing governments, a war that doesn't end, and there probably is no plan part the next election.